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Re: Should this forum remain active?

Ron K
 

Would miss it it it went, but I understand "someone" has to manage it. I avoid FB like the plague, in part because of their data mining, and in part because I don't care for the format as a means of communication.

Ron


Whats on my bench: Tennis shoes and heads

 

So to continue the rave about my newly acquired Prusa Mini 3d printer here are a couple more images:
PXL_20201104_225130226-1000.jpg
This first image shows a 3d printed armature next to an armature that has been skinned with wood putty.  I'm new to working with this wood putty...my jury is still out.  I was going to use Sculpy but had just obtained this water-based wood putty and thought that I would give it a try. It is sturdy and can be easily carved with a dental tool.  Note the 3d printed ear.  I'll not be painting this for another month or so.
PXL_20201103_170231518-1000.jpg
These tennis shoes are about 1-3/4 inches long.  I love the lace detail.  Obviously, I have a bit of clean up to do around the ankle areas.
The automata that I am creating right now is called Auger Lift.  A biped will be pedaling, which in turn will turn a 15" long auger, which will raise marbles to the top so that they can roll down.
What is on your bench?
Cheers
-Jim Coffee-


Re: Should this forum remain active?

BiLL B
 

With the number of other distractions I have. I find that I simply read the email that I get when someone posts and dont follow up and go to the site.
But I do find myself on FaceBook, often participating in several wood carving and general "making" groups. Maybe a private FB group would be a better option as I do enjoy seeing peoples works in progress as well as interacting with those with more talent than myself.

Just a thought.

BillB


On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 10:29 PM Jim Coffee <jim@...> wrote:
Good evening...
I approached Marc about 1-1/2 years ago and suggested this forum.  After discussion, the forum was put in place and it became active in August 2019.  
While I continue to think that this forum is a good idea the reality would suggest that it is of marginal value and should be turned off.  I'm tentatively ready to close this forum on December 31, 2020.  I would like to thank those of you that have posted/contributed!
Please consider this email an opportunity to make your thoughts known regarding the value of this forum to the automata community.
Cheers
-Jim Coffee-
one of the Automata Group Moderators
I create automata near San Diego, California




Re: Should this forum remain active?

Jimmy Gray
 

It is up to you but since the magazine is now going to continue I disagree about the forum being marginal. I find it very usefull as one who is fairly new to kinetic art and automata. So what I am saying is I would like to see the forum and still find the information valuable and usefull. It saves a lot of time and trouble to having to search on youtube and the internet and is something I look forward to. These are my thoughts. But the choice is still yours.
By the way I like your work!
Oh, yeah I did live in Escondido at one time myself about 40 years ago.
Jimmy Gray

On Wednesday, November 4, 2020, 7:29:07 PM PST, Jim Coffee <jim@...> wrote:


Good evening...
I approached Marc about 1-1/2 years ago and suggested this forum.  After discussion, the forum was put in place and it became active in August 2019.  
While I continue to think that this forum is a good idea the reality would suggest that it is of marginal value and should be turned off.  I'm tentatively ready to close this forum on December 31, 2020.  I would like to thank those of you that have posted/contributed!
Please consider this email an opportunity to make your thoughts known regarding the value of this forum to the automata community.
Cheers
-Jim Coffee-
one of the Automata Group Moderators
I create automata near San Diego, California




Should this forum remain active?

 

Good evening...
I approached Marc about 1-1/2 years ago and suggested this forum.  After discussion, the forum was put in place and it became active in August 2019.  
While I continue to think that this forum is a good idea the reality would suggest that it is of marginal value and should be turned off.  I'm tentatively ready to close this forum on December 31, 2020.  I would like to thank those of you that have posted/contributed!
Please consider this email an opportunity to make your thoughts known regarding the value of this forum to the automata community.
Cheers
-Jim Coffee-
one of the Automata Group Moderators
I create automata near San Diego, California




Re: What's On My Bench: A new 3D printer.

Randy
 

I didn't find that the Fusion360 limitations affected me either. I've been using Cura as a slicer for several years and recently had a print that it wasn't slicing correctly. I tried Prusa Slic3r and it worked. I haven't got Slic3r's rafts to work very well but if I increase the first layer line width and slow down the first layer travel speed, I've found I don't need a raft anyway. I think I'll drop using Cura completely now.

-Randy


Re: What's On My Bench: A new 3D printer.

federico
 

I love to see your experiments Jim! I also got a Prusa Mini not to long ago and I'm really liking it, it feels more like a tool and 
less like a hobby compared to other 3D printers I had used in the past. 

I'm a Fusion360 convert and even with the recent added restrictions it still works fine for me, although I'm happy that
FreeCAD is getting the use and attention a good open source solution deserves, that feels better in the long run. 

Though I have to say that layering Sculpey on a 3D printed skeleton is the most brilliant tip I've heard in a while. It's
one of those "why didn't I think of it" ones, thank you for that!

Federico


Re: What's On My Bench: A new 3D printer.

 

Here is the finished mask on the monkey.
Cheers
-Jim-
PXL_20201024_211235245-1000.jpg

On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 15:42, Jim Coffee <jim@...> wrote:
This post is a recap of my foray into the 3D printing world.

The Machine: After about 6 months of researching, I ordered a Prusa Mini (~$400).  It was back-ordered for 2 months.  This machine will print up to 7" X 7" X 7".  I received it a week ago.
PXL_20201017_162702282-1000.jpg
The Filament: As an initial choice I ordered Matter Hackers Tough PLA (~$52). So far, so good.  And it accepts spray primer very well.
The Software:  Because Fusion 360 was free for personal use I had been doing tutorials.  Then they changed their terms of service making things a bit more restrictive.  So more research into the software.  I finally settled on FreeCAD...an open source bit of software.  Many tutorials later...many failures later...I'm finally getting the hang of it.  I am computer literate but I certainly had trouble with this software.  However, at this time I've created some files that I've been able to 3D print and that have turned out well and are useful.  
The Slicer: For now I am using the Prusa Slicer (and it seems just fine).

Here are several finished prints:
This first one is a nameplate that is about 115mm long.  I had been paying ~$15 plus shipping for brass nameplates.  This cost less than $.50 and took about 4 hours to print.  I'm printing at very high detail settings (.05 mm layer height with a .25mm nozzle).  I'm learning so am refining the design still (the logo in particular), but I'm moving down the path toward perfection.  I'm pleased.
PXL_20201020_204703632-1000.jpg


I play a street organ in public a couple of times a month.  Mounted on the top of the street organ is a monkey (my first automata).  This face mask is being created for him to wear.  Since capturing this image I've painted it.  After I get it mounted on him (and if I remember) I'll share an image with you.  I found the face mask file online in one of the 3D file repositories and scaled it down (shrunk it).
This mask is just a couple of inches across (oops, 50mm).  It's been tough for me...the conversion to metric thinking for this 3D printed stuff.
PXL_20201022_223848914-1000.jpg
Here is a sprocket and a hub assembly that is being printed.  My cost on this assembly in metal would be ~$13.00.  It is true that the plastic is not as tough as metal.  It is also true that I minimally load these things...so the plastic should be fine most of the time.  I've got this sprocket assembly in a test machine right now...running under load.  After several hours no sign of a problem.  Note that even the #6 threads are printed.
PXL_20201018_231602085-1000.jpg
And here is the one that I'm excited to show you.  When I create my bipeds (the little men) I struggle with the bodies and the heads.  Here is a skull that I will be layering a Sculpey skin onto.  By using this skeleton head my proportions should be better than I've been doing.  And coming up...I'm going to be experimenting with 3D printing ears.  Ears are really tough for me.  This skull file also came from a 3D file online repository.  This particular head is too large...so I'll be scaling this down further and reprinting.  I'm also considering glass eyes.
PXL_20201023_211542030-1000.jpg
And in the future who knows what all this will be like.  I will say that I've been toying with purchasing a small lathe and a small mill.  Now that I've been working with this 3D printer those two purchases are less likely.  The skull, for example, could not have been created with a lathe/mill.
I'm very impressed with how strong the plastic components are...they are very tough.  And I'm not working with the tough filaments.  I would like to experiment with bronze filament.  I think the nameplates would be excellent in bronze.  And nylon and wood and carbon fiber filaments are available (and lots of others)...perhaps one day.  

The most difficult part of all of this for me has been the software.  I'm over the hump, however, so things are getting easier.  Keep in mind that virtually anything can be created...so the software needs to be complicated.

Enough for now.  I hope this post helps someone.
Cheers
-Jim Coffee-
creating automata near San Diego, California.



What's On My Bench: A new 3D printer.

 

This post is a recap of my foray into the 3D printing world.

The Machine: After about 6 months of researching, I ordered a Prusa Mini (~$400).  It was back-ordered for 2 months.  This machine will print up to 7" X 7" X 7".  I received it a week ago.
PXL_20201017_162702282-1000.jpg
The Filament: As an initial choice I ordered Matter Hackers Tough PLA (~$52). So far, so good.  And it accepts spray primer very well.
The Software:  Because Fusion 360 was free for personal use I had been doing tutorials.  Then they changed their terms of service making things a bit more restrictive.  So more research into the software.  I finally settled on FreeCAD...an open source bit of software.  Many tutorials later...many failures later...I'm finally getting the hang of it.  I am computer literate but I certainly had trouble with this software.  However, at this time I've created some files that I've been able to 3D print and that have turned out well and are useful.  
The Slicer: For now I am using the Prusa Slicer (and it seems just fine).

Here are several finished prints:
This first one is a nameplate that is about 115mm long.  I had been paying ~$15 plus shipping for brass nameplates.  This cost less than $.50 and took about 4 hours to print.  I'm printing at very high detail settings (.05 mm layer height with a .25mm nozzle).  I'm learning so am refining the design still (the logo in particular), but I'm moving down the path toward perfection.  I'm pleased.
PXL_20201020_204703632-1000.jpg


I play a street organ in public a couple of times a month.  Mounted on the top of the street organ is a monkey (my first automata).  This face mask is being created for him to wear.  Since capturing this image I've painted it.  After I get it mounted on him (and if I remember) I'll share an image with you.  I found the face mask file online in one of the 3D file repositories and scaled it down (shrunk it).
This mask is just a couple of inches across (oops, 50mm).  It's been tough for me...the conversion to metric thinking for this 3D printed stuff.
PXL_20201022_223848914-1000.jpg
Here is a sprocket and a hub assembly that is being printed.  My cost on this assembly in metal would be ~$13.00.  It is true that the plastic is not as tough as metal.  It is also true that I minimally load these things...so the plastic should be fine most of the time.  I've got this sprocket assembly in a test machine right now...running under load.  After several hours no sign of a problem.  Note that even the #6 threads are printed.
PXL_20201018_231602085-1000.jpg
And here is the one that I'm excited to show you.  When I create my bipeds (the little men) I struggle with the bodies and the heads.  Here is a skull that I will be layering a Sculpey skin onto.  By using this skeleton head my proportions should be better than I've been doing.  And coming up...I'm going to be experimenting with 3D printing ears.  Ears are really tough for me.  This skull file also came from a 3D file online repository.  This particular head is too large...so I'll be scaling this down further and reprinting.  I'm also considering glass eyes.
PXL_20201023_211542030-1000.jpg
And in the future who knows what all this will be like.  I will say that I've been toying with purchasing a small lathe and a small mill.  Now that I've been working with this 3D printer those two purchases are less likely.  The skull, for example, could not have been created with a lathe/mill.
I'm very impressed with how strong the plastic components are...they are very tough.  And I'm not working with the tough filaments.  I would like to experiment with bronze filament.  I think the nameplates would be excellent in bronze.  And nylon and wood and carbon fiber filaments are available (and lots of others)...perhaps one day.  

The most difficult part of all of this for me has been the software.  I'm over the hump, however, so things are getting easier.  Keep in mind that virtually anything can be created...so the software needs to be complicated.

Enough for now.  I hope this post helps someone.
Cheers
-Jim Coffee-
creating automata near San Diego, California.



Re: Radio Piece on Automatons Artist

 

Hi Ron...
Good listen and view.  Thanks for sharing this link.
He makes some interesting automata.  I love how people do so many different things.
Cheers
-Jim-

On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 15:03, Ron K via groups.io <peter.pilot=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Automatons Keep Gears Turning In D.C. Artist's Brain During The Pandemic

Caught this on the radio.

Ron


Radio Piece on Automatons Artist

Ron K
 


Groups.io Email Settings ~ Default is Only Moderators and Owners

Ron K
 

I don't know if this is common knowledge and I was one of the few ignorant ones, but Groups.i.o has a top level Account Identity and an Identity specific to each group you join. The default setting is for no-one to see your email address, and that means you can only be contacted through a board posting. Mine was set to Only Moderators and Owners and I didn't realize it. You access all your profiles stating by clicking your name in the upper right.

 By selecting the [Identity] button on the left you will see your top level profile and then a profile option for each group you are a member of. When you select [Edit] for your top level profile, there is a note at the top of the page:

"Changes made to this profile will also be made to each group profile, with the exception of those fields that you have previously customized in each group profile. To edit those customized fields please go to the specific group profile and click "edit"  "

About 1/3 down the page is [Profile Privacy]. The profile email settings start out set to Moderators and Owners only. If that setting is never changed, it's adopted into each group you join. If you change it, then it will change settings as stated above.

Ron

Ron


Re: Paul Spooner's 1998 Cabaret Mechanical Theatre Anubis Paper Cutout "Magic Soup"

Ron K
 

Hi Alan, thanks. Something to do with your profile, I can't private message you.

Ron


Re: Paul Spooner's 1998 Cabaret Mechanical Theatre Anubis Paper Cutout "Magic Soup"

alanmahonalan@...
 

Ron K was looking for information about this paper cutout – I can supply the information if he contacts me.
Alan.


Re: Congrats...the magazine continues

 

Greetings Myron...
YouTube might be easier for you.  Much easier to share from YouTube.
I would love to see the video also.
Cheers
-Jim Coffee-

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 19:21, Myron Tupa <myrontupa@...> wrote:
Hi Gus,
Thank you for the request.  I have to postpone sending out the video until I brush up on how to use my Drop Box.  I haven’t used it in 6 months and forgot how to attach a video to an email :>(
Myron


On Oct 12, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Gus <klekner@...> wrote:

Hi Myron, second that ! A one legged rooster ? I request a video please !

Cheers, 
Gus 

Keep Safe 


Re: Congrats...the magazine continues

Myron Tupa
 

Hi Gus,
Thank you for the request.  I have to postpone sending out the video until I brush up on how to use my Drop Box.  I haven’t used it in 6 months and forgot how to attach a video to an email :>(
Myron


On Oct 12, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Gus <klekner@...> wrote:

Hi Myron, second that ! A one legged rooster ? I request a video please !

Cheers, 
Gus 

Keep Safe 


Re: Congrats...the magazine continues

Automata Magazine
 

Hi Myron,

Thanks very much for your note. I look forward to your article!

Best wishes,
Marc


On Oct 12, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Myron Tupa <myrontupa@...> wrote:

I too am very happy that the magazine will continue. It is in my future to write an article.
Thank you Marc & others for your efforts.
Myron Tupa
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Long life to Automata Mag ! Thank you again Marc!
Dominique Corbin



Re: Congrats...the magazine continues

Gus
 

Hi Myron, second that ! A one legged rooster ? I request a video please !

Cheers, 
Gus 

Keep Safe 


Re: Congrats...the magazine continues

Myron Tupa
 

I too am very happy that the magazine will continue. It is in my future to write an article.
Thank you Marc & others for your efforts.
Myron Tupa



Long life to Automata Mag ! Thank you again Marc!
Dominique Corbin


Re: Congrats...the magazine continues

Dominique Corbin
 

Long life to Automata Mag ! Thank you again Marc!
Dominique Corbin

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