Re: Paper Modeling Lesson's Learned
Ron K
Jim, take a look at papermodelers.com for some backgrounds. There's also Fiddlers Green though they are 99% paid models.
Ron
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Re: Almond coupling
autopilotjim
I've never seen that before. Very interesting. Although I'm completely new to automata, I find myself looking at mechanism animations and wondering which of them are within my skill level. The possibilities for movement are seemingly endless! Here's my favorite channel with 1 or 2 new videos every week.
https://www.youtube.com/user/thang010146/videos thanks jim
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Re: Teddy the Artist
Craig
Thanks Jim. Yes it's definitely a puzzler.
It's been good fun researching so far, stumbling across all sorts of wonderful inventions in the patents database. Lots of food for thought. Best wishes, Craig
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Re: Paper Modeling Lesson's Learned
Thanks for the tips Ron. I keep thinking along the lines of "hybrid". I can see how some very wonder detail could be added to an automation using printed paper. I appreciate that you've brought paper automates to our attention and would love to see some images of your work. Cheers -Jim-
Some "lessons learned" on paper modeling based on Rob Ive's patterns. He has a fair number of free ones, and he also has models on the Brother paper craft site but most of those are static. There are a few YouTube "hacks" showing possibility of combining the mechanisms with other art work/characters.
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Re: What's On My Bench: Two videos
Hi Gus... Hopefully, I'll be renting in yearly increments. The hour meter is for 'maintenance' purposes. For example, I'll appreciate knowing how many hours I can expect from the gear motors before they fail. I would expect these automata (the product spinning rentals) to operate ~2,000 hours per year. Time will tell. Cheers -Jim-
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 00:59, Gus <klekner@...> wrote:
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Re: WIP "The Politician"
Hi Gus... I've successfully installed motor/hand-crank combinations on several of my pieces and I'm always glad that I did. I isolate the motor from the hand-crank using two one-way bearings. This gives the option of hand cranking (which is really useful during the build!) and then operating under power when you simply want to stand back and let it go by itself. I look forward to watching the progress of your politician. Your work so far looks exquisite. Cheers -Jim-
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 00:46, Gus <klekner@...> wrote:
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Re: What's On My Bench: Two videos
Gus
Hi Jim, What is its purpose ? For your maintenance attention, or are you thinking to rent it on hourly basis ? Gus
On 11 Jun 2020, at 12:44 am, Jim Coffee <jim@...> wrote:
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Re: WIP "The Politician"
Gus
Hi Jim, I think a hand crank involves the observer more than motorised, so it will be manual. Though, in this case, given the size of the whole, it might be beneficial to stand back. Thanks for the question, I will keep the perspective in mind. Hard to know how long it will take, there is so much inventing to do. My guess would be months, probably six at best. Be safe, Gus
On 11 Jun 2020, at 12:43 am, Jim Coffee <jim@...> wrote:
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Re: Rob Ives Paper Automata Hack ~WARNING POLITICAL~
I hesitate to call this anything of my own, standing on the shoulders of giants type of thing. Very political, I do not want to debate, just using my freedom of expression. But for others who struggle with "talent" maybe it will provide some inspiration. Rob has many, many free templates, and modeling in paper is cheap LOL and mistakes easily replaced. So until the real inspiration hits . . .
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Paper Modeling Lesson's Learned
Ron K
Some "lessons learned" on paper modeling based on Rob Ive's patterns. He has a fair number of free ones, and he also has models on the Brother paper craft site but most of those are static. There are a few YouTube "hacks" showing possibility of combining the mechanisms with other art work/characters.
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Re: Rob Ives Paper Automata Hack ~WARNING POLITICAL~
Ron K
Thank you Jim, I appreciate it. The biggest and hardest lesson has been to not freak (uh, have a tantrum) over glue where it's not wanted. It generally turns out to be reasonably benign and from what I've read everyone, regardless of how long they have been doing it, struggles
For anyone else reading this, I've jotted down a few "lessons learned" based on Rob Ives models.
Ron
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Re: Rob Ives Paper Automata Hack ~WARNING POLITICAL~
Hi Ron... Thanks for sharing. Paper automata is real. And to my sense of things difficult. I've never gotten tuned in to paper and really admire those that are tuned in. And thanks for sharing this particular 'political' piece. Cheers -Jim Coffee-
I hesitate to call this anything of my own, standing on the shoulders of giants type of thing. Very political, I do not want to debate, just using my freedom of expression. But for others who struggle with "talent" maybe it will provide some inspiration. Rob has many, many free templates, and modeling in paper is cheap LOL and mistakes easily replaced. So until the real inspiration hits . . .
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Re: Teddy the Artist
Craig... I admire your tenacity. You are deep into the research! I do hope that you find the solution (and that you share it with us). And also that you will share your experimentation. I've rolled this little problem around in my head and so far I remain stumped Cheers -Jim-
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 09:58, Craig <craiglonghurst@...> wrote:
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Re: What's On My Bench: Two videos
Hi Gus... Not yet...I just received an 'hour meter' that I am in the process of installing. Then I'm going to take it out and try to market it. Cheers -Jim-
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 21:23, Gus <klekner@...> wrote: Wish you luck with your product display. Is it in operation at a commercial establishment ?
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Re: WIP "The Politician"
Hi Gus... Thanks for posting. I got out my converting calculator and see that this figure will be 31" high. Very impressive. I like the way that you have carved the head...nice shape and proportions and detail. Good job. Please do keep posting your progress. These builds are very interesting. Hand crank or motor? What is your rough estimate for completion (month, year)? Cheers -Jim-
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 21:16, Gus <klekner@...> wrote: A politician is standing in front of the usual flag background, and an impressive foyer, behind an equally impressive lectern. He is delivering a message, as they tend to do. At the end, something happens, which I will keep secret until completion, no need to spoil a surprise.
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Rob Ives Paper Automata Hack ~WARNING POLITICAL~
Ron K
I hesitate to call this anything of my own, standing on the shoulders of giants type of thing. Very political, I do not want to debate, just using my freedom of expression. But for others who struggle with "talent" maybe it will provide some inspiration. Rob has many, many free templates, and modeling in paper is cheap LOL and mistakes easily replaced. So until the real inspiration hits . . .
https://www.instagram.com/p/CBJ0HUEJRX6/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet Ron
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Re: What's On My Bench: Two videos
Gus
Wish you luck with your product display. Is it in operation at a commercial establishment ?
Gus
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WIP "The Politician"
Gus
A politician is standing in front of the usual flag background, and an impressive foyer, behind an equally impressive lectern. He is delivering a message, as they tend to do. At the end, something happens, which I will keep secret until completion, no need to spoil a surprise.
The figure is 800mm tall, has eyes which turn side to side, up/down, the head turns, nods up, down, the arms move and he body turns from the waist and bows. All is dependant upon success of managing to achieve all of that....... The first part is the carving of the head, from a 90x90 mm block of Huon Pine, an Australian semi softwood which holds small details very well. It was some 28 hours to completion. The interior was carved out to make room for the eye mechanism, which is the next part to fabricate. That will be added to this post as the process continues. Regards, keep safe ! Gus
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Re: Teddy the Artist
Craig
Hi Everyone,
A quick update on this for those that are interested.
Spent quite a bit of time searching (and getting sidetracked - google patents database throws up all sorts of great stuff!), and have come to the conclusion that this must be using a pantograph with a driven magnetic follower (along the lines suggested by Kim and Dominique).
I searched for "magnetic wheel toy" and found that the "Whee-lo" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whee-lo was around in 1953, which is encouraging as it indicates that toys were using magnets pre-1960. The other interesting bit is that it was subtitled "The Magnetic Walking Wheel" - which is exactly what we want here.
So then, how do we get the wheel to 'walk' around the animal shape? More searching and I found patent US2651140 which whilst the magnet there isn't used for the same purpose, the toy does use a pantograph AND has a (manual) drive mechanism from the centre to the end of the arm (used for rotating a car via the magnet).
For Teddy we can use a similar approach to drive the magnetic follower in the central bearing:
I've ordered a cylindrical magnet to use as the follower, and I'm going to start experimenting with various drive transmissions to see what works best.
Would still be good to know for sure how the original works, but at least I've got an approach that *might* work.
Best wishes,
Craig
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Re: What's On My Bench: Two videos
Craig
Thanks Jim. That's a great deal of useful information.
I've only used DC geared motors myself, which run happily for push-button operation (short running). I will definitely have to start using the mains motors. They have the added advantage of being synchronous, so can be built into clocks (another of my passions - although I tend towards mechanical clocks because of the variety in escapements). Of course with mains voltage comes a whole new area of safety concerns for me. Here in the UK anything on public display must be PAT tested to ensure electrical safety and earthing. The in-line circuit breaker is a good idea. I'd not considered the choice of power cord, but now you mention it I'll explore what's available. I quite like the idea of finding a power cord that is aesthetically pleasing as well as functional (much like the braided USB cables on the market nowadays) Craig
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